tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8281898744624594172.post7781182864021184081..comments2023-09-30T08:05:10.721-04:00Comments on And Yet It Moves: I Liked the Old Atheists BetterAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13832931497605041428noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8281898744624594172.post-46908219297614560772011-04-30T23:57:59.289-04:002011-04-30T23:57:59.289-04:00he leaves this week! :D
politics will ruin anythin...he leaves this week! :D<br />politics will ruin anything, but by adding variables it ruins more. by adding religion to politics, it is too easy to manipulate those who chose not to think for themselves. <br />i used for news republican as a way of separating from any other republican or Christian.<br />I myself an an ex Catholic as you know, and I am friends with many Catholics...most of whom are Lapsed Catholics but Catholics none the less. Northern (U.S.) Catholics are amazingly liberal people within a conservative structure.<br />While I do agree with your friend Ed, that some of it may just be to sell books, there is a sense of fighting back.<br />I get told all the time from adults, peers, kids that I am an idiot for being an atheist...after a while you fight back.<br />One of my favorite hobbies now that I am in the Bible belt is to show the Southern Baptist Holly Rollers where various holidays and practices (that they vehemently yell at me for not celebrating) came from. All the pagan practices, all the various saints that were canonized pagan gods... <br />It is especially fun to do it to teens. I know part of that is wrong, but I get sick of being yelled at for my world view.<br />Hell every school day from kindergarten through high school i had to pledge allegiance to a god that i wasn't sure existed because some paranoid men in the 50s (and in the 20s before them) thought they could defeat communism by having americans pledge under god.<br />It gets tiring. <br />The only difference is I don't want to preach, I don't want to sell books. I have no interest in using atheism in a political way.<br />I just want to breathe without being yelled at because I don't thank their god for my breath.<br />does that make sense?bairdduvessahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06781443285628475955noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8281898744624594172.post-9149921340856861202011-04-30T23:38:48.681-04:002011-04-30T23:38:48.681-04:00Ed, yes, they do seem to have figured out what sor...Ed, yes, they do seem to have figured out what sort of language and rhetoric will be most likely to land their books on the best-seller lists...Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13832931497605041428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8281898744624594172.post-1185140424131179402011-04-30T23:35:52.505-04:002011-04-30T23:35:52.505-04:00Thanks for your comment, Mike. First, I'd like...Thanks for your comment, Mike. First, I'd like to make sure we separate out Christianity from republicanism (especially fox news republicanism) as I believe they have almost nothing to do with one another (despite what they might think). I am happy to be part of a church community that is almost entirely non-political (we have a variety of political opinions, though mostly liberal leaning, but we realize that Jesus was not a republican or a democrat). I would probably be just as annoyed as you.<br /><br />To my mind, politics are actually the source of many sins committed in the name of religion. The Roman Catholic Church in the Middle Ages, for example, was a political body as much as it was a religious one and became corrupt. The religious right has tied their own politics to Christianity, with disastrous results. The dispute between Irish catholics and protestants seems to me to be a political war draped with religious language and titles but having very little to do with Scripture or seeking God in their lives. <br /><br />Anyway, I like to think that we would be able to dialogue about things like reasonable people. But hey, not everyone is reasonable. Sorry you have to live with one of them!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13832931497605041428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8281898744624594172.post-12697512897063359372011-04-30T23:22:16.546-04:002011-04-30T23:22:16.546-04:00It seems that every religion and perspective has a...It seems that every religion and perspective has a fundamentalist camp of some sort. Sadly enough, the best way to get noticed is to write something sensational, to fight for a narrow perspective, and to shun reasonable discussion.ed cyzewskihttp://www.inamirrordimly.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8281898744624594172.post-75253169407847685842011-04-30T22:56:49.086-04:002011-04-30T22:56:49.086-04:00the past few months we've had a religious nut ...the past few months we've had a religious nut living here. Needless to say he and i don't get along...especially since he's a fox news republican and im a social anarchistic atheist.<br />the problem with debating atheism, is that th epoint of view of the others can interpret logic with bating, with statements with preaching.<br />...the more rigid he gets, the more rigid I get. when i use his tactics against him i come off as an asshole.<br />i think some of those people too are caught in the same traps, that they have become so tired of explaining our point of views easily; we become so tired that we end up acting just as stupid as the preachers on the other side.<br />I do believe the world would be a better place with out the Abrahamic Faiths, or most of the other ones.<br />But yes, I believe we can live easily with each other without the doctrine of some man/men who died thousands of years before us.<br />But there are some things we can happily take from them as well.<br />We cannot deny that there have been pluses to society through religion and rules, but I do think it is time for a fade out of them.<br />Keep the faith, lose the words of others.<br />We are a growing populace, there will be more philosophical battles coming between the various groups, and the more one side pushes more the weak on the other side will push back too.bairdduvessahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06781443285628475955noreply@blogger.com